LISA on New Album Alter Ego, The White Lotus & Performing at the Oscars

Next guest is a massively successful K-pop music star with a new solo album.

下一位來賓是一位非常成功的 K-pop 音樂巨星，帶著一張全新的個人專輯來了。

It's her first solo album. It's called "Alter Ego."

這是她的第一張個人專輯，名為《Alter Ego》。

And you can see her playing a very charming hotel worker named Mook on "The White Lotus."

你也可以在《白蓮花大飯店》中看到她飾演一位名叫 Mook、非常有魅力的飯店員工。

Watch that Sundays on HBO and Max.

週日可以在 HBO 和 Max 上收看。

From BLACKPINK, please welcome LISA!

來自 BLACKPINK，掌聲歡迎 LISA！

Very good to see you, and to meet you, and really, I met you over Zoom one time, during COVID. You were on the show.

很高興見到妳，我們算正式見面了，其實在疫情期間我有跟妳透過 Zoom 連線過一次，妳有上過我們的節目。

Yes, I remember. Yeah.

對，我記得。沒錯。

And I saw you on the Oscars, too. You did a fantastic job singing...

而且我也在奧斯卡頒獎典禮上看到妳，妳唱得太精彩了...

Thank you.

謝謝。

James Bond theme song. "Live and Let Die" you did, right?

是詹姆士龐德的主題曲。妳唱的是〈Live and Let Die〉，對吧？

I know.

我知道。

Yeah, "Live and Let Die."

對，〈Live and Let Die〉。

And I will tell you something: we have something in common besides both being K-pop superstars.

我要告訴妳一件事：除了我們兩個都是 K-pop 超級巨星之外，我們還有一個共通點。

You and I both were suspended from the ceiling at the Oscars.

妳跟我都曾在奧斯卡典禮上被吊在天花板上。

Oh!

噢！

When I hosted the—one of the times I hosted the Oscars, they put me up in the thing, and then they dropped me down.

我主持——我有一次主持奧斯卡的時候，他們把我吊在那個裝置上，然後把我放下來。

And it was very uncomfortable, I have to say.

我不得不說，那真的非常不舒服。

Yes.

沒錯。

And so I was thinking about you when I saw this on Sunday.

所以當我週日看到這一幕時，我就想到了妳。

There you were, and it seemed so elegant and graceful.

妳吊在上面，看起來是那麼優雅、那麼從容。

But it's kind of scary, right?

但其實蠻恐怖的，對吧？

It was really scary.

真的很可怕。

Yeah.

對啊。

Yeah. I was like, um, I'm not comfortable doing this.

對啊，我心裡想：呃，這樣做我覺得好不舒服。

And they don't care! They say, "That's too bad. You're doing it," right?

而且他們根本不在乎！他們會說：「那真遺憾，妳還是得上」，對吧？

No, but they really asked me, "Do you really want to do it? Are you okay? You feel good?" I'm like, "Yeah."

沒有啦，他們真的有問我：「妳真的想做嗎？妳還好嗎？感覺還可以嗎？」我就說：「可以啊。」

Right, and you were lying. See, I was complaining the whole time.

對，妳在說謊。妳看，我可是全程都在抱怨。

How, how was your experience?

那、那你的體驗是怎樣？

It was unpleasant, because they had me in a harness, and then, you know, everything, you know, gravity squishes everything down, you know.

很不舒服，因為他們讓我穿上安全吊帶，然後妳知道的，地心引力會把全身的東西都往下壓，妳懂的。

Yeah, you can't really feel your legs and everything.

對，你會漸漸感覺不到雙腿之類的。

That's not—those were those were the least of my problems.

那還不是——雙腿麻掉已經是我最微不足道的問題了。

How long were you up there?

妳在上面待了多久？

Um, I think more than two, three minutes.

嗯，我想超過兩、三分鐘吧。

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

噢對，對對。

Yeah, how about you?

對啊，那你呢？

I was up there for quite a bit longer. Yeah.

我在上面待得比那久多了。真的。

Oh, I'm sorry.

噢，真替你難過。

It's okay. I'm not here to complain. But I am here—first of all, you're great on "The White Lotus" as well.

沒關係，我不是來抱怨的。但我今天是——首先，妳在《白蓮花大飯店》裡演得也很棒。

Thank you.

謝謝。

That is a, a great role for you.

那對妳來說是個很棒的角色。

Thank you.

謝謝。

And you're very charming in the, in this scene, and a lot of people seem to think that because you are so sweet on the show, you are going to turn out to be the killer.

而且妳在那場戲裡非常迷人，很多人似乎都認為，因為妳在劇裡表現得太甜美了，到頭來妳一定會是那個兇手。

Ooh.

噢。

Are you the killer?

妳是兇手嗎？

Am I supposed to tell you that?

我應該告訴你這個嗎？

You shouldn't—legally, you should not, but I would appreciate it if you did.

妳不該——法律上妳不能講，但如果妳講的話我會很感激。

It would be funny if you did.

如果妳講了會很有趣。

I mean, she's a sweet girl.

我是說，她是個很甜美的女孩。

Yeah.

對啊。

Mook is she's really sweet girl.

Mook 真的是個很甜美的女孩。

There's no way she's the killer. I'm going to be so mad if she's the killer.

她絕不可能是兇手。如果她是兇手我一定會氣炸。

Honestly!

說真的！

Why?

為什麼？

Because she's so sweet! It would just be deceptive if she's the killer.

因為她太甜美了！如果她是兇手的話根本是在騙人。

And the guy, the other guy, she's got—he's got the crush on her, and your heart kind of breaks for him because she's kind of... she thinks he's nice, but maybe he's not.

還有那個男的，另一個男角色暗戀她，看到他心裡會替他有點難過，因為她有點... 她覺得他人不錯，但也許沒那意思。

Are you—is she interested in, in him? Your character?

妳有——她對他有興趣嗎？妳的角色？

Um...

嗯...

I think she wasn't sure.

我覺得她也不太確定。

She's not sure.

她不確定。

She was just like, you know, testing the water. It's like, let's go on a date and let's see how it's happened.

她就只是想，試探一下水溫。就像是「我們去約會看看，看會發展成怎樣」那樣。

Her name is Mook.

她的名字叫 Mook。

Yeah.

對。

Which—what does that mean in Thai, Mook?

那在泰文裡是什麼意思，Mook？

Mook means pearl.

Mook 的意思是珍珠。

Pearl, okay.

珍珠，好的。

Because in English, "mook" is not a compliment.

因為在英文裡，「mook」可不是什麼稱讚的話。

A mook is like a like a little like a dumb, little, like kind of thug, like a mook, you know?

mook 就像個蠢蠢的、有點像小流氓混混那樣的人，懂嗎？

Oh!

噢！

Oh.

噢。

It's like one of the guys on the corner is a mook.

就像街角混的那些小混混就是 mook。

Oh no!

噢不！

Oh yeah, they didn't tell you this, huh?

沒錯，他們都沒跟妳說這個，對吧？

No!

沒有！

Nobody mentioned it?

都沒人提過？

Well, it's a Thai name, so...

嗯，這是泰國名字，所以...

Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah, so you don't have to worry about that in Thailand, but here it's a problem.

對啦。在泰國不用擔心這個，但在這裡可就有問題了。

Okay, so don't so don't call me Mook here.

好，所以在這邊千萬別叫我 Mook。

Don't call you Mook. And um, and this is uh, boy, it's interesting to me how different you look in this...

別叫妳 Mook。那這個是，天啊，我覺得很有趣的是妳在封面上看起來有多不一樣...

in this album cover, your solo album.

在這個專輯封面上，妳的個人專輯。

Thank you.

謝謝。

It's, um, a concept album.

這是一張概念專輯。

Yeah.

對。

And that means what exactly, a concept album?

那概念專輯到底是什麼意思？

Um, so it start from, um, I came to LA and try out different type of music for for this album.

嗯，一開始是我來到洛杉磯，為這張專輯嘗試了各種不同類型的音樂風格。

Mhm.

嗯哼。

Mhm.

嗯哼。

And it turns out that I love every single of them, so that's why I call this album "Alter Ego," and I have five different characters.

結果每一種風格我都超愛，所以這就是為什麼我把這張專輯取名為《Alter Ego》，而且我有五個不同的角色。

Five characters, and you perform as each individual character.

五個角色，而且妳分別化身成每一個角色來表演。

Yeah.

對。

What are the characters?

有哪些角色？

Uh, mm, okay, there's Roxi, Kiki, Sunni, Speedi, and the last main girl, she's Vixi.

呃，好，有 Roxi、Kiki、Sunni、Speedi，還有最後的女主角，她是 Vixi。

Which one is the most like you?

哪一個最像妳？

These days, I think Vixi.

這陣子的話，我覺得是 Vixi。

Oh, really?

噢，真的嗎？

Yeah.

對。

Oh, I thought you were more of a Speedi.

噢，我還以為妳比較像 Speedi。

I'm a, I'm a—oh!

我是、我是——噢！

Sometimes, when I drive, when I drive, yeah.

有時候啦，當我開車的時候，開車時確實是，對。

Oh, is Speedi likes driving fast Speedi?

噢，所以 Speedi 是指喜歡開快車的 Speedi 嗎？

Yes, she loves cars, and yeah, she loves to she love to drive fast.

對，她超愛車子，而且對，她很喜歡開快車。

Oh!

噢！

And you came up with this idea?

這是妳想出來的點子嗎？

Um, my team...

嗯，我的團隊...

Your team came up with the idea.

妳的團隊想出的點子。

...and me as well.

...還有我自己也是。

Did they have—did it take them a long time to explain what the plan was? Like you're going to be five different characters, and you're like, "Uh, but I thought I was doing a solo album."

他們有——他們花很久時間跟妳解釋這個計畫嗎？像是妳要扮演五個不同角色，而妳心想：「呃，但我以為我要做的是個人專輯耶。」

"No, there are five of you."

「不，這裡有五個妳。」

No, it's just like a quick conversation, it's like 10 to 20 minutes, like, "What do you think about the five character idea?" And I was like, "I love it. I think it's it's me."

沒有，就只是一個簡短的討論，大概十到二十分鐘，他們問：「妳覺得五個角色的點子怎麼樣？」我說：「我很喜歡，我覺得這很代表我。」

Well, good! Well, that's, yeah, fortunate. You are—I know that on "The White Lotus," you guys all live at that hotel when you're shooting the show, right?

很好！那真的很幸運。妳們——我知道在拍《白蓮花大飯店》時，妳們在拍攝期間全體都住在同一家飯店，對吧？

Mhm. Mhm.

嗯哼，嗯哼。

And then you hang out with the other actors?

然後妳會跟其他演員一起鬼混嗎？

Yes, we all have have like a meal together all the time if we if we have, um, um, what to say, the right timing?

會啊，只要我們、我們如果有...該怎麼說呢，時間剛好對得上的話，我們一直都會一起吃飯。

Yeah, if you have enough time to do it. Yeah, oh yeah, cuz sometimes some of you are working and...

對，如果大家時間允許的話。對啊，因為有時候有些人要拍戲...

Yeah, someone then are working.

對，有些人要工作。

You get together, and you guys sing karaoke?

大家聚在一起，而且妳們還會唱卡拉 OK？

Yeah.

對。

Yes, but not every single night.

會，但不是每天晚上都唱啦。

No, no, no. No, that would be more of a Speedi kind of thing to do.

不不不。那種事比較像是 Speedi 會做的事。

But when you're singing karaoke, are there people who are not involved with the production there? Like do people lose their minds when they see you there singing karaoke?

但是當妳在唱卡拉 OK 的時候，現場會有劇組以外的普通人嗎？大家看到妳在那裡唱卡拉 OK 會不會直接瘋掉？

They don't care.

他們根本不在乎。

They don't care?

他們不在乎？

Yeah.

對啊。

Why?

為什麼？

I'm just like sitting in the corner of the room, and just I'm just being like cheering them, hyping them up.

我就只是坐在房間的角落，幫大家歡呼、幫大家炒熱氣氛而已。

Oh, you don't sing?

噢，妳不唱喔？

I don't.

我不唱。

Oh, never?

噢，從來不唱？

I'm more like I dance. I love to dance.

我比較偏向跳舞，我喜歡跳舞。

You're one of those people who gets up on the stage and kind of in the background and doesn't—really?

妳是那種會跑上台，但在背景伴舞不拿麥克風的人？真的假的？

Yeah, I feel weird for me to like grab the mic and sing.

對啊，要我拿著麥克風唱歌我會覺得怪怪的。

Well, you're a singer!

拜託，妳可是歌手耶！

Karaoke?

唱卡拉 OK 耶？

Yeah. No, I understand that. Yeah, there's a lot of pressure, right?

對啦。不過我懂，壓力很大對吧？

Yeah, a lot of pressure.

對，壓力很大。

Who's the best karaoke singer in the, on the in the cast?

同劇演員裡誰是卡拉 OK 唱最好的？

Mmm, Natasha.

嗯，Natasha。

Oh, Natasha, she was here last week. Oh, she is, huh?

噢，Natasha，她上週才來過這裡。噢，她唱得很好，是嗎？

Yeah, oh she's so good!

對，噢她超級厲害！

What does she do? What songs? What kind of music?

她都唱什麼？哪些歌？哪種類型的音樂？

Oh, so many so many, um, song that she did, but I don't remember, but everything was...

噢，她唱過好多好多首歌，但我記不太清楚了，不過每一首都很...

One personality, or does she do five?

她只用一種人格唱，還是也來五個人格？